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Monday, December 18, 2006

THIS MADE ME ANGRY

An article about Iktimal Hage Ali drew several responses.
Among them this little gem...


The only reason she got the award is because she is an alcohol drinking Muslim that is, one who openly flouts Islam. The only acceptable face of Islam to the PM and other “civilised” Aussies as opposed to us “uncivilised” ones. She is an Alawi not a Muslim so please don't group her with us. She does not represent us practising Muslims in any way, form or manner nor do we wish to emulate her in any way, form or manner. Islam bans ALL intoxicants including tobacco. One who openly drinks does nothing wrong under Australian law but she has broken one of the leading tenets of Islam and unless she repents she forfeits all rights to represent us and even if she regrets it, there are plenty others who are more conversant with Islam fit to be a leader. There are hundreds of hijab clad Muslim ladies who toil morning, noon and night for the community and do not take intoxicants or mix with drugs. Such ladies will never get the coverage this dame gets but they are happy to be the unsung heroines of Australia. Iktimal had no reason to win the accolade. It was only a political decision to appease the non practising "Muslims" and the “civilised secular” Aussies. To fail to understand that Islam takes an abhorrent view of intoxicants and to then quite undemocratically select a traitor simply leaves me breathless. When will Anglos understand that it is alcohol that causes the most social destruction in Australia today. Numerous studies undertaken by academics, medical specialists and research groups funded by the government have disclosed REPEATEDLY that alcohol costs us well over $2 billion per annum in Australia. The same studies have proved beyond a scintilla of a doubt that alcohol is directly and indirectly linked to an alarming number of murders, rape, mayhem, streetfights, infant/toddler deaths, inter-gender disrespect, pub fights, violence generally, the vast majority of assaults, wife bashing, child bashing and teenage births. Even incest, road crashes and car deaths particularly teenage deaths are inexorably linked to alcohol. Just last week a 79 year old was "turned to marmalade" all bones broken and even security grill dislodged by the offender who left her blood dripping from 12 foot high, so savage was the totally unprovoked attack by a drunk.
Sima Rahman


Well Sima, I suppose YOU are the only valid representative of Muslims in Australia. I suppose your scarf makes you more moral, more ethical, more Muslim and hence more deserving. I suppose YOU have deemed yourself respectable enough to speak on behalf of an US.



These people really make me sick.

5 comments:

Egypeter said...

"The same studies have proved beyond a scintilla of a doubt that alcohol is directly and indirectly linked to an alarming number of murders, rape, mayhem, streetfights, infant/toddler deaths, inter-gender disrespect, pub fights, violence generally, the vast majority of assaults, wife bashing, child bashing and teenage births"

Oh really? All of that? lol. What a complete and total idiot!!

Jeeeeeeez...someone needs to buy this bitch a drink...and quick! :)

Anonymous said...

When will Anglos understand that it is alcohol that causes the most social destruction in Australia today.

Why did she say "Anglos" there, when she meant Christians? Are Anglos the only Christians who drink? Is she implying Anglos are just a bunch of drunks, and that other Christians don't have the same problems that Anglos do? Is she saying there aren't any Anglos who don't drink? No Anglo muslims? No non-Anglo communities with substance abuse problems? Why did she make it about race, while she framed the other side of the equation religiously?

That was a big red flag to me in that snippet.

Anyway... enough of that...racism is a different issue. Why is she ignoring the tremendous problems Iran (an Islamic country) has with alcohol abuse but particularly with addiction to narcotics, especially amongst the young? Is she saying that leaders in Tehran are not sufficiently good Muslims to promote good Islamic ideals in Iran? The women are all veiled (it's the law) and the country is under 100% *strict* sharia. According to what she said, if there were some Iranian mullahs calling the shots in Australia, there wouldn't be any problem with intoxicants... right? And should we even get into the prostitution in Iran?

I can't believe she actually thinks whether a person drinks alcohol or not determines the quality of that person's spiritual beliefs. Or that social problems are so easily solved.

Anonymous said...

When will Anglos understand that it is alcohol that causes the most social destruction in Australia today.

Why did she say "Anglos" there, when she meant Christians? Are Anglos the only Christians who drink? Is she implying Anglos are just a bunch of drunks, and that other Christians don't have the same problems that Anglos do? Is she saying there aren't any Anglos who don't drink? No Anglo muslims? No non-Anglo communities with substance abuse problems? Why did she make it about race, while she framed the other side of the equation religiously?

That was a big red flag to me in that snippet.

Anyway... enough of that...racism is a different issue. Why is she ignoring the tremendous problems Iran (an Islamic country) has with alcohol abuse but particularly with addiction to narcotics, especially amongst the young? Is she saying that leaders in Tehran are not sufficiently good Muslims to promote good Islamic ideals in Iran? The women are all veiled (it's the law) and the country is under 100% *strict* sharia. According to what she said, if there were some Iranian mullahs calling the shots in Australia, there wouldn't be any problem with intoxicants... right? And should we even get into the prostitution in Iran?

I can't believe she actually thinks whether a person drinks alcohol or not determines the quality of that person's spiritual beliefs. Or that social problems are so easily solved.

The Usual Suspect said...

Craig
I didn't pick up on the Anglo thing- well spotted.I was too angry at the other stuff.
Racism is the issue here, though. This woman is the worst kind of racist man! She is so drunk on her own moral superiority that she can't think straight.
She embodies everything that is wrong with Muslims today- moralistic, judgemental, illogical, racist, whinging, focussed on artificial symbols and pedantic non-issues rather than on being good people.
If I ever meet her in the street, she better run because I will not hold back! Growl!!

Anonymous said...

actually...the woman is utterly right about the effect of alcohol on society. when i was in law school, most of my negligence or criminal cases were totally about alcohol. i myself like drinking but it's indsiputable that it's for the common good of society that people not drink.

programmer craig...dude, just because iran has shariah law in place, does not mean people follow is. jeez. just because it's a theocracy doesn't mean everyone is a good muslim.

anyway, leaving aside the whole issue of who "deserves" to "represent" any religion, it's a total fact that if you do not comply with the tenets of islam, you cannot be a good muslim. i do not understand how this is in dispute. you may be a muslim, but you won't be a good one, if you drink.